AP2 combo with AP1

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By sebastien h

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  1. sebastien h

    sebastien h
    Montreal, QC

    Hi,

     

    I currently play with AP1.

    I would like to replace my 8-9-PW-GW with AP2.

    What is the best way to do it?

    I was thinking ordering custom AP2 with stronger loft to match AP1 loft.

    8 @ 37  (regular is 39)

    9 @ 41 (regular is 43)

    PW @ 45 (regular is 47)

    GW @ 49 (regular is 51)

    I would also get a SW...thinking of 53 to match my 58 (that I love).

     

     

    To order custom loft, should I order at titleist or golf town?

    Are the custom loft clubs bended by titleist or golf town?

    (I live in Canada)

    Tx

     

    Sebastien

     

     

  2. Bradley L

    Bradley L
    Mississauga, ON

    Sebastien,

     

    You would have to order the clubs through golf town or a authorized retailer, can't order direct through Titleist.

    As for bending the clubs.  You should have to bend them only 1* one strong to make up the difference. No?  The bounce will be changed slightly but not that big of a deal.

    Make sure the shafts match and your set!

    Brad 

  3. sebastien h

    sebastien h
    Montreal, QC


     

    Here are the loft of my AP1.

     

    3 Iron 20°
    4 Iron 23°
    5 Iron 26°
    6 Iron 29°
    7 Iron 33°
    8 Iron 37°
    9 Iron 41°
    P 45°



    Here are the loft of AP2

     

    3 Iron 21°
    4 Iron 24°
    5 Iron 27°
    6 Iron 31°
    7 Iron 35°
    8 Iron 39°
    9 Iron 43°
    P 47°

     

     

    To follow a 4° between each club, i have to bend 2°....

  4. FJL

    FJL
    Kitchener, ON

    I think the real question here is "have you hit a full set of the AP2's?"  You may just want to consider upgrading to all AP2's and move up one club, ie: instead of a PW, hit a 9 and so on.  There would definately  be a 'feel' difference between the two because one is forged carbon and the other is stainless steel, but then again, I don't know your game and the higher you progress toward the 3 iron the harder they may be to hit but you presently have stronger lofts so the forged mid and upper irons of the AP2's shouldn't be an issue.

    You're asking for the maximum bend for a forged club made from carbon steel and the AP1's are stainless steel, perhaps even investment cast,  which allows for more degrees of a bending tolerance, up to 4* I believe.  Again, at 2*, you'd be taking the AP2 forged club to its maximum.

    Perhaps more information regarding your game (strengths and weakness), handicap, ball flight, etc. are needed or better yet, book an appointment with a Titleist fitter to see if your game warrants a possible upgrade to a forged club, which I believe it just may. 

    You will find that should you then decide to go to the forged AP2's, any bending will most likely be performed on the 'lie' portion of the club, not the 'loft'.  The "Lie" of the club is where the money should be spent IMHO.

  5. FJL

    FJL
    Kitchener, ON

    There is a video in the Titleist Golf Club Blog where they discuss all the 712 series irons from the AP1 to the MB and show you the differences in the 712 series progression between all the sets, from forgiveness to workability and MOI to CG and how their differences throughout the 712 line are designed for certain levels of golfers.  It may help, as I found, that they use a Tungsten weight in the AP1's where you will find, if you purchase the AP2's, that the tungsten weighting will not be present and then what.  The more information you have with the more research available and that you can easily obtain from this site, can only aide you in the decision making progress and thereby feel comfortable in making your choice the right one.

  6. sebastien h

    sebastien h
    Montreal, QC

    Here is where I am coming from....

    I started playing 19 years ago when I was 13.

    Started with some wilson blades on aluminum shaft (gift from my grand dad)

    Switch to tommy armour 845 for couple years (7-9 handicap - my best years).

    Stop playing actively for 9-10 year (16-18+ handicap)

    Tried some other irons for 1 season, but hate them; my golf was very bad for those irons at that time

    Then I started playing actively again 2 years ago, bought ap1 (i am now 12 handicap and improving)

    I hit iron 9(AP1) @ 150Y 

    I hit very high shots on all my irons .

    I am a digger type for wedge.

    I wanted a combo set because I don't shape my shots and I believe AP1 for long irons would make my score better.

    I really prefer the feel of AP2, but can sacrifice for forgiveness on longer irons.

  7. FJL

    FJL
    Kitchener, ON

    With a profile like that, especially with the potential of reclaiming your single digit handicap again, I would strongly suggest that you visit a Titleist club fitter and even go so far as possibly considering the CB's with a stiffer flex now.  You've obviously outgrown the AP1 and possibly the AP2 series as well in the 712 line.  Perhaps just going to a screen at GolfTown or a Demo Day and trying all the 712 series to see how they perform for you.

    Slimmer soles in the CB will aide in giving you a more boring ball flight trajectory, which is desired by the better player, because now you're not sacrificing the ball to the elements,  you'll gain control over the "wind element" for sure, which will help you score better.

    The perimeter weighting of the CB irons will still maintain a large degree of  forgiveness and still aide in an off-center-struck shot. 

    The stiffer shaft may take away some of your length, which you can easily afford (9 iron @ 150 yards), but more stiffness will give you much more accuracy, again aiding in better scores.

    Did you get a chance to see the video on the blog as mentioned earlier?

  8. sebastien h

    sebastien h
    Montreal, QC

    I guess I'll schedule a fitting session...  

    Is golf town good enough? or should wait for an 'Advance Fitting Center' to open? (Allt of them are close until May)

     

    In terms of shaft, are the stock shaft good enough, I heard good thing of the KBS, but have to admit, I am totally lost by the huge selection available...

    (I am asking here, because I don't want golf town salesman telling me bullshit)

     

    Seb

  9. Mitch D

    Mitch D
    Richmond Hill, ON

    Team Titleist Staff

    Hi Sebastien,

    A Golf Town fitting expert can most definitely assist you.  However, it may be ideal for you to visit one of our regional fitters who is equipped with our full range of club fitting tools.  You Team Titleist Profile does not show your location so we're unable to suggest one to you.  If you let us know your approximate location, we'd be happy to recommend a location.

    Thank you all for providing Sebastien with such great feedback!

     

    Cheers,

    Mitch D - Team Titleist Canada

  10. sebastien h

    sebastien h
    Montreal, QC

    Hi Mitch, I am living in Montreal H3K 3C4.

    Sebastien

  11. Mitch D

    Mitch D
    Richmond Hill, ON

    Team Titleist Staff

    Hello Sebastienn,

    Club De Golf Blainvillier is a Titleist Regional Fitting Centre.  They will have an extensive matrix to help get you dialed in.  Below is their address, phone number and directions from Montreal.  It should take you approximately 50 minutes to get there by car.

    If you require any further information please feel free to send us a message or visit http://www.titleist.ca/clubfitting/ .

    Please come back and let us know how your fitting went.

     

    Regards,

    Mitch D - Team Titleist Canada

     

     

    200 Chemin De Blainvillier, Blainville, QC J7C 4X6  Tel#514-567-1886

    50.7 km, 50.7 km
    1 Head southwest on Rue Centre 0.1 km
    2 At the roundabout, take the 2nd exit 51 m
    3 Turn right onto Avenue Atwater 0.5 km
    4 Make a U-turn at Rue Sainte Émilie 0.6 km
    5 Turn right onto the Autoroute 15 N/Autoroute 20 O ramp to Autoroute Décarie Expy/Saint Jérôme/Toronto 0.5 km
    6 Merge onto Autoroute 15 N/Autoroute 20 W
    Continue to follow Autoroute 15 N
    8.7 km
    7 Take exit 70-E to merge onto Autoroute 15 N/Autoroute 40 E toward Saint Jérôme/Québec/Mirabel 2.8 km
    8 Take exit 70 on the left to merge onto Autoroute 15 N toward Laval/Saint Jérōme 30.2 km
    9 Take exit 31 toward Mirabel/Saint-Janvier 0.5 km
    10 Merge onto Rue Charles 1.3 km
    11 Turn right onto Boulevard Curé-Labelle S/QC-117 S 1.2 km
    12 Take the 3rd left onto Boulevard Céloron 1.3 km
    13 Turn left onto Rue du Blainvillier 0.2 km
    14 Slight right to stay on Rue du Blainvillier 1.1 km
    15 Slight right to stay on Rue du Blainvillier
    Destination will be on the left
  12. FJL

    FJL
    Kitchener, ON

    sebastien h said:

    I guess I'll schedule a fitting session...  

    Is golf town good enough? or should wait for an 'Advance Fitting Center' to open? (Allt of them are close until May)

     

    In terms of shaft, are the stock shaft good enough, I heard good thing of the KBS, but have to admit, I am totally lost by the huge selection available...

    (I am asking here, because I don't want golf town salesman telling me bullshit)

     

    Seb

     

    Sebastien, thank you for being so open minded and showing flexibility toward a journey that will aide in finding the right Titleist equipment to help you succeed in this maddening game we call golf.  We'll leave it for now at what Mitch said in the above post and I wish you all the success in getting what you want and need in a Titleist golf club.  Bon chance mon amis! (hope I spelled it right, lol!)

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