Hybrid v fairway

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By Jason G

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  1. Jason G

    Jason G
    oxford, 0

    Hi

    Not sure if Ryan C is aroiund for any advice, but i have a dilemma which I know would be helped by real life testing, which is, of course what I do intend to do at a fitting day, which I do have near me soon.

    However, I would like some advice to go to the fitting day with at least some info.

    I am a 3 handicap golfer, but I have always struggled to hit hybrids off the fairway, and to a lesser degree fairways off the fairway too. I have started to put this down to my physiology, I am 5ft 9 tall but have discovered recently that I apparently have relatively long arms for my height. I know static measurements form only a small part of fitting nowadays, but my wrist to floor measurement is only 32.5"! This has lead me to think that this maybe part of my problem with hybrids and fairways, they may simply be too long and too upright accordingly. This leads to a closing of the face at impact off the fairway with hybrids and fairways resulting in a hooky pully shot that is also very low ballflight.

    Its great that the new 910 hybrids/fairways lie angles can be altered, but my question is do you guys think that I may have a point here, and what would you suggest to look out for to alleviate my problem with hybrids/fairways off the fairway? In addition to this, should I look at maybe a 17 degree fairway and a 19 degree fairway as lofts can be adjusted to create a suitable yardage gap? or should I stick to a 17 degree fairway and 21 degree hybrid?

    Jason

     

  2. Ryan Crysler

    Ryan Crysler
    West Palm Beach, FL

    In my experience, although I don't quite have evidence yet, there are players that have a "signature" in their swing that doesn't quite work for hybrids, but does work for traditional fairways.  The lie could be a culprit.  Shaft length could be the issue too. 

    There is also a psych part to hybrids as well.  Some people just don't like the look and prefer the traditional shape of a fairway.

    I would avoid your perceived weaknesses at all cost and go straight to fairways, 15, 17, 19.  There are 16 combos per club not including different shafts and lengths.  I'm sure a club fitter near you could dial in the appropriate gaps with these combos. 

     

  3. Jason G

    Jason G
    oxford, 0

    Hi Ryan.

    Thanks for the advice, and although at the fitting, my mind will still be as open as possible, I happen to think on this occasion you are quite right, at least as far as I am concerned, and think the best option for me, may well be, to look at two 910 Fairways, 16 different options for each fairway gives me plenty of room for manouvre on ball flight and the correct distance gap between clubs as you rightly say. I am not saying that I am ditching the idea of a Hybrid in my bag, simply that I may slightly err towards the two fairway option as you rightly say.

    I also had a look on your article on the Driver fitting and issue of "one plane swing=higher torque shaft, Two plane swing=lower torque shaft" and although there are a few exceptions on tour I am sure, (JF springs to mind, the architypal two plane swinger of a club, using a Oban Devotion @ 3.5 degrees of torque), I would concur in the main with you, and think the correlation you mention, may well be true. Although I swing @ 110-112mph on a vector launch monitor, I simply cannot hit the Diamana Whiteboard, The Ahina or the RIP for toffee. Yet stick the Javln M7 even in a X flex, and a Project X 7B4, I absolutely "nail"!! Both these shafts have a torque value of more than 3.2 degrees. And Yep, I am a One plane swinger of a club!! So from your findings, I personally think that you may right. Well, it works for me anyhow!!

     

  4. Ryan Crysler

    Ryan Crysler
    West Palm Beach, FL

    There you go!

    My theory applies to the hundreds of fittings I've done with the general golfing public.  There is probably a ball speed barrier at some point that may change the correlation.

    I have fit players with PGA Tour ball speeds from 165-190mph, and they tend to prefer X flex lower torque.  But indeed, I believe there's a correlation for One/Two plane swings and driver shaft preference for the rest of the golfing public.  Even if the companies measure torque differently.  I can't explain it, but I think the fundamentals for each swing lend themselves to particular shaft traits.  The club fitter and player can save a lot of time and swing energy!

    The correlation doesn't seem to apply to fairways, hybrids, irons, or wedges.  But you got to start somewhere and testing a hybrid shaft from the same company as your driver shaft may save some trial and error time as well! 

    RC

     

  5. Jason G

    Jason G
    oxford, 0

    Iteresting that you find no correlation in hybrids Fairways irons and wedges though, That is odd. I may still give the theory a go in Fairways and Hybrids and print up my findings to you if thats ok? I couldn't believe it when I took hold of the Javln X flex and started flying the ball in to the fence on the fly. Of course it may be just that shaft suited me, and will defo be doing more thorough testing and printing my findings, as this is something that really interesting,

    I will keep you posted.

  6. Ryan Crysler

    Ryan Crysler
    West Palm Beach, FL

    Very nice!  Please keep us posted!  RC

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