910 F and a high handicap

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By Chance H

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  1. Chance H

    Chance H

    My question is concerning the 910 F and your thoughts as to how forgiving it is. I have demo'd this and the 910FD. The ball flight on the FD was a little lower than I liked off the turf but I did hit 910F much higher and I hit it will but unfortunately my range session was limited (15-20 balls). I currently play an old Tour Edge "lift off" 3 wood and it has a pretty shallow face and I play it well but ive had it for about 13 years and its time to move on. So I guess my question is if this club is more for lower handicap players or not. My SS is approx 106 with a driver, if that matters and approx 15 handicap. Also some more info on the demo session, it had the sticker on the face and plastic wrap in addition to about two layers of tape over that, not sure how much that affects ball flight, spin, etc.
  2. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Chance H said:

    My question is concerning the 910 F and your thoughts as to how forgiving it is. I have demo'd this and the 910FD. The ball flight on the FD was a little lower than I liked off the turf but I did hit 910F much higher and I hit it will but unfortunately my range session was limited (15-20 balls). I currently play an old Tour Edge "lift off" 3 wood and it has a pretty shallow face and I play it well but ive had it for about 13 years and its time to move on. So I guess my question is if this club is more for lower handicap players or not. My SS is approx 106 with a driver, if that matters and approx 15 handicap. Also some more info on the demo session, it had the sticker on the face and plastic wrap in addition to about two layers of tape over that, not sure how much that affects ball flight, spin, etc.
    106 mph swing speed and 15 handicap. First being do you hit accurately with that swing speed? Second is your quality of short game play. There are people that can drive a golf ball near 300 yards but waste all their strokes within 100 yards or take two or more shots to get out of a bunker. There are quite a few seniors that play to a single digit that barely hit a 4H 170 yards (I played golf with an elderly gentleman whose score for 9 holes was +3 and he was not a long hitter but hit it straight and consistent). I play to a 12 handicap (and it is slowly dropping now that I reverted back to using hybrids in place of the 5-7 irons) and my swing speed is 85 mph (95 tops if I crank one); I've nearly broke par on some of the shorter courses. I have a good short game.
  3. Chance H

    Chance H

    Yes, 106 is a controlled swing not 100% swing and almost always make very good contact with the driver but it can be errant at times. I use my 3 wood off the tee frequently. But to answer your question, my short game (100 yd and in) is where im lacking. Thats not to say that I hit ever shot cleanly every time but generally I hit my woods and hybrids cleanly. Im just not sure how much difference switching to the 910F would make, the head seems to be a little smaller but not by a ton.
  4. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Chance H said:

    Yes, 106 is a controlled swing not 100% swing and almost always make very good contact with the driver but it can be errant at times. I use my 3 wood off the tee frequently. But to answer your question, my short game (100 yd and in) is where im lacking. Thats not to say that I hit ever shot cleanly every time but generally I hit my woods and hybrids cleanly. Im just not sure how much difference switching to the 910F would make, the head seems to be a little smaller but not by a ton.

    My two cents on switching woods.... the best test is a side by side shootout with your current wood and a demo club. If your current club wins the contest you save money. I've developed a very good short game since 2006. Pelz has some great tips about distance control on the wedges. There is a rule of thumb that you shave 10 yards for every 1/2 inch you choke down on a full swing, 5 yards per on 1/2 swing and 2.5 for 1/4 swing. Generally a pitch is about 70% of a full golf swing. a 1/2 swing pitch is about 50% of your full swing distance and a 1/4 swing is 25%. I know I hit a PW about 100, full pitch 70 yd, 1/2 swing pitch 50 yd and 1/4 swing 35 yd. I actually charted all my distances from the 5H down on an Excel spreadsheet. It's good to know these because sometimes you need a workaround when one club goes haywire (for instance getting shankitis on full swings). If you go to the golf course, note how crowded the driving range and putting greens are and how open the pitching greens or practice bunkers are.

  5. Charn J

    Charn J
    North Hollywood, CA

    Chance H said:

    Yes, 106 is a controlled swing not 100% swing and almost always make very good contact with the driver but it can be errant at times. I use my 3 wood off the tee frequently. But to answer your question, my short game (100 yd and in) is where im lacking. Thats not to say that I hit ever shot cleanly every time but generally I hit my woods and hybrids cleanly. Im just not sure how much difference switching to the 910F would make, the head seems to be a little smaller but not by a ton.

    It really depends on whether or not you can control your shots.  If all you care about is distance, than the 910F is not the way to go because the volume is smaller and the face will not apply enough compression on the ball at impact.  If you like to control the shape of the shot, then the 910F is the way to go.  A player's handicap does not really matter when it comes to using this set because the Handicap does not account for how well a player's short game is.

  6. Chance H

    Chance H

    Well distance isn't my first choice when looking at a three wood, while I dont want it to be signifigantly shorter than my current model, I want something I can hit straight. As far as actually controlling my shot shape im really just starting to experiement with that. I dont want to get too cute with them because im hitting it pretty straight now (for the most part). Lately ive been able to recreate a nice fade with driver and 3 wood and haven't really tinkered with my swing because I used to have a problem hitting a super draw or snap hook that I worked on eliminating. I think I will see if I can demo it again and bring my old three wood to compare side by side.
  7. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Chance H said:

    Well distance isn't my first choice when looking at a three wood, while I dont want it to be signifigantly shorter than my current model, I want something I can hit straight. As far as actually controlling my shot shape im really just starting to experiement with that. I dont want to get too cute with them because im hitting it pretty straight now (for the most part). Lately ive been able to recreate a nice fade with driver and 3 wood and haven't really tinkered with my swing because I used to have a problem hitting a super draw or snap hook that I worked on eliminating. I think I will see if I can demo it again and bring my old three wood to compare side by side.
    In regards to drawing or fading, your swing remains the same as hitting straight (you swing along your foot path and your finish is the same but the clubface is open or closed at impact). You aim the clubface at the target before gripping the club and then line your feet up the amount you want to draw or fade and then grip the club. The ball position in relation to your feet never changes (in relation to the target line a fade appears way forward in the stance and a draw appears further back). Your grip appears strong for a draw and weak for a fade in relation to the clubhead but neutral in relation to your body. For me it is much easier to draw. Too many people try to do fancy things to steer the golf ball and try to make it too complicated. The ball position in relation to your head and torso stays the same regardless of what you do. The mechanics of the swing doesn't change, except for position of the feet, stance width, choke down on the handle, and backswing length. I used to have a bad snap hook in 2006 and my biggest fault was turning left on the follow through (and that was because I was hanging back). I have a slight bit of an outside-in swing with fairway woods and driver so I close my stance a little to make it a little more inside out (can't fight mother nature so I've adapted and I do pretty good).

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