Every club except my driver is usually a little draw on every shot. If I do miss with an iron, it's usually a little left due to a slight pull. The driver, however, is a huge slice when I miss, often accompanied by a push. My feeling is that I'm either sliding (hence the push) and/or I'm not releasing my hands (the slice). It's just so strange why it only happens with the driver. Love this game!

I mentioned the grips because I'm 6'5" with pretty big hands. My driver grip is smaller than every other club in the bag. My normal grip is 3 extra wraps, but I think the driver needs more because the shaft is thinner. Unfortunately, you can't demo a club with a larger grip, so I can't try it without re-gripping my driver.

BTW, I've pounded balls at the range a lot, and I can usually get things straightened out. However, I can't seem to replicate that back on the course. It's really frustrating. Maybe I should go back to nothing but 2-irons (or hybrids). I have plenty of length (220 carry with a 3 iron), but I'd like to take advantage of that with my driver.

Give that driver to a friend (smile)

When you hit one great, remember how you did it and just do that (smile again)

the D3 is made to play the ball a little more forward in your stance.

If you want to keep the ball back, try the 983K or 907D1, I don't know(never seen) a 909D2 or DComp, but they are probably designed to be played a little back from the D3.

I have 909D3, but I use 983K because with the D3 I keep forgetting and play the ball back, and I get slices and pushes. When I remember to play the ball forward I hit it nice.

My instant reaction is that if your hitting everything great with your irons and hybrids, then not with the driver, your grip is too small. If you slice the drive with a small grip , your right hand comes too far over the grip as their is not enough room for it to sit comfortably on the grip. If you get a larger grip, your right hand (I'm presuming your right handed) will stay more on the right side of the grip, which will allow you to get rid of the slice and bomb them down the middle again. hope this helps, and good luck!!

Thanks. I've been think the small grip forces me to hold on too tight, and that is preventing me from releasing properly. I think it's time to drop the club off for a re-grip.

Get all your clubs grip with the same grip and the same size by a pro that knows what he is doing to the size of your hands or what you like in size. this take the grip size issue out of the mix. The D3 for your handicap is the wrong club. again, get fitted with the right driver, shaft and swingweight. once you have this sorted, you can then sort out the swing. does not hel if you question the grip, the club etc. sort this out and then work on the swing. I believe in custom fitting to ensure there is no question in the mind regarding the tools. then you sort our the swing. With respect. any person with a handicap who try and teach another player must fix their own problems. if you struggle with the swing, dont wast time, go find a pro to help you solve the problem.

"Go with what works"

Prior to having twins, I was a single-digit handicapper. Unfortunately, I went from playing several times a week to 3-4 times a year. After 8 years, I'm getting back to playing more, and I recently replaced my 13yo DCI 962 irons with 710 MBs. Some people told me that "I could never hit MBs" because my handicap is over a 4. All I know is that I learned on blades, and I was fitted by a top fitter and tried AP2s, CBs, and MBs. In the end the MBs had the best numbers, and they were the most consistent distance-wise. As a bonus, they looked and felt the best for me, so I went with them even though it certainly wasn't what I thought I would end up with. After thinking about it, however, I wasn't as concerned. All I need to do is look at the worn grooves on my DCIs (right in the middle), and I remembered the year I played with only 2-PW, 52, 56, and 60. Generally shot within 2-3 strokes either side of 80 every time. My misses are rarely the toe shots where cavity backs help the most (my iron misses are an occasional pull). Plus, I know it's the driver that's killing me -- hence this post.

Now that my driver is straightening out more, I'm looking forward to where my scores will go when I have 120 yards in on a 400 yard hole instead of 180 or so. Going for it on par 5s again will be fun as well.

In regards to "going with what works," I just acquired a set of Titleist DCI 981 irons 4-GW (Dynamic Gold Sensi-core shafts) and was amazed that I was hitting a 5 iron half-arsed and was NAILING the 6 and 7 irons. I believe all I have to do to make the 4 iron hit properly is bend it upright one degree and to make the 5 iron hit properly is bend it half degree. The 6-GW pretty much match the lie angles on a set of Lynx Black Cats that I experimented with about 6 months ago (shot 2 over par on that golf game despite being short on distance vs my Snake Eyes irons). I've been struggling with the 5-7 irons for about 5 years now; however, I have been using a combination of either a 5H or lofted wood and a 34 hybrid. I've been playing to a 10 handicap for 2 years now and the big reason is I have a scratch golfer short game. I learned how to play golf in the good ole days with 3-4 persimmon woods, 2-PW and dual wedge. I even carried a 1 iron in the mid 1980s and could hit it 260. My short game was mediocre at best and I generally shot in the mid 90s. For 25 years I played with a set of X-31 Staff irons that my dad bought new in 1967. In fact, I played with laminate 3-4 woods, 3-5-7-9 irons and a Haig Ultra Dual Wedge and broke 90 for the first time in 1975. I will say one thing about the DCIs: they have much better feel than quite a few game improvement irons (I had a set of GT3, Snake Eyes Q3I, Eye 2). I like the DCIs so much that I put my Eye 2 irons on Craig's List. The thing about "someone with over a 4 handicap not being able to play MBs" is bunk, basically. Someone with a 20 handicap may hit flawless irons but his/her wood game or short game may be a total disaster. I see quite a few that struggle to hit a fairway wood off the ground. I also see a LOT of golfers that have pathetic short games but can drive a ball 300 yards or more. Also knew of a club champ who had a 0 handicap but could hit a 5 iron only 150 yards (I caddied for him a couple times in HS).

You're body is obviously ahead of the ball for you to push-slice it. Check your left knee and your weight shift, try not to slide forward. When you come down, drop it in the slot and clear your hips. The swing should be a circular motion. Hope this helps.

Several lessons and videos make me pretty sure it wasn't my swing. It was my release. Every other club (3 wood on down) is pretty consistent. I think in the end it came down to my grip being too small. The small grip had me holding on for dear life, resulting in problems releasing the club. Then it snowballed as I tried to compensate for it.

Last week, I re-griped my driver with a midsize grip, and now my drives are much more consistent. Before, my heal pad was covering most of the nail on my two middle fingers. Now, those two fingers are just touching the heal pad, and my grip pressure is much lighter. As a result, I find it easier to release like all my other clubs.

The lesson for me is never specify grip size in terms of extra wraps. Always use measurements (+3/64" or +1/16"). For example, I have a old set of irons griped by a local shop with 2 extra wraps, and those grips are larger than grips done by Titleist with 3 wraps. This is with the same shaft and same grip. 

Hi Dave , good to hear your driver is back in business, hopefully now the handicap will start to come down . Good luck man and keep me informed on how you get on !!! Sean

Yes, I'm so looking forward to getting back into the single digits. Prior to making the switch, I was averaging around 90 with the vast majority of lost strokes being off the tee. I've only had two rounds with the new grips, but the results are promising (82 and 78). Amazing what being around the fairway can do for you. Penalty strokes and punches back to fairway add up.