Considering changing from AP1 to AP2 and revised vokey wedge set up

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By Martin F

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  1. Martin F

    Martin F

    My AP1 PW is 45 degrees so my current vokey wedge set up is 50, 54 and 60.

    If I  change to AP2 the PW is 47 degrees so should I go for one degree stronger loft to 46 to maintain current wedge set up or leave at 47 and go 52, 56 and in the vokey wedges ?

  2. Trey P

    Trey P
    Lubbock, TX

    Military

    My 680MB's were recently re-lofted to the current MB set-up that Titleist offers, and this affected my wedge set-up as well. What I did was get my 54* re-lofted to a 52* since the PW set-up is 48*. Why not take your current PW to a fitter and have the loft adjusted to 47* vice buy a different wedge and subsequent wedges for your set-up? Just a thought and something to look into. Hope this helps.

  3. Carl T

    Carl T
    Little Rock, AR

    Bob Vokey has a rule of thumb that you should have a gap of 4 to 6 degrees between wedges from your PW. It would make more sense to take the AP2 PW of 47 degrees and have it bent to 46 degrees and keep your current wedge set up. My set up is PW 46, 52-08, 58-08. It was PW 46, 50, 54 and 58 but I have added a hybrid to replace a long iron and needed to go with the 3 wedge set up instead of 4 to meet the 14 club rule so I got the 52 and took out the 50 and 54.

  4. ChuckG

    ChuckG
    Baltimore, MD

    If you're already comfortable with your 54 and 60, I'd say to keep them.  You probably know how far you hit those two clubs and what kinds of shots your can hit with them.

    You could then maybe replace your 50 with a 48 degree wedge, either by bending the AP2 PW, or going with a Vokey 48.

    Wow, after checking the AP1 specs, I never realized there was such a big loft difference between them and the AP2's.

  5. Martin F

    Martin F

    Well it's been a while but i have finally changed to AP2's (712). I have gone for 3 iron to PW.  I have to say that I should have done this a long tome ago because they are superb. I am 10 handicap and always worried that I was not good enough for  forged irons but the AP2's are fantastic. Still getting used to the weaker lofts than AP1's ( 2 degrees weaker on short irons and 1 degree weaker on long irons) so hopefully I can re-adjust fairly quickly. I don't want to change my 50, 54 and 60 degree vokey wedge set up but the 50 degree is too close to the 47 degree AP2 PW.  I have the 910 D2 9.5 degree driver and 910Fd 15 degree 3W so I am considering dropping 50 degree vokey and buying a 910H 19 degree hybrid. Any thoughts or suggestions?

  6. Anthony D

    Anthony D
    Shelby, NC

    I have the same but went with the 5 wood instead. I have a 54, and 60 vokey wedges and love them!

  7. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Anthony D said:

    I have the same but went with the 5 wood instead. I have a 54, and 60 vokey wedges and love them!

    I carry a setup that is radically different from that that most carry on this forum but play a reasonable round of golf with them (12 hcp and slowly dropping). I carry both a 7 iron and a 7H because I do specific shots with each (always have had some form of "approach" hybrid since 2006). The gap between clubs from the 5W down to 7H/7 iron is 15 yards and from 7 down is 10 yards. I'm not a terrible long distance hitter anymore (54 yo. I hit the driver 220-240, the 5W 190, the 4H 175, the 5H 160, the 7/7H 145) but they find the center of the fairway. I don't carry a 3 wood or 6 iron because I have struggled with them since 2006. Burner 13* draw driver (I tee the ball pretty low); actually get a lower trajectory vs a 10.5 neutral driver. Superfast 18* 5W Superfast 4/21H (it is 40.5" so it plays more like a wood). SQ2 5/26 and 7/34 H AP1 7-PW Vokey 50-08 (bent to 51), 54-11 (bent to 55), 58-04, 62-07 Odyssey WH 7H putter
  8. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Why not bend the 50 to 51 and the 54 to 55?
  9. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Lou G said:

    Why not bend the 50 to 51 and the 54 to 55?
    making the gap wedge 51* would fall in the same line as the lofts on the AP2. The 50-08 would have 9* bounce. The 54-11 would have 12* bounce.
  10. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Martin F said:

    Well it's been a while but i have finally changed to AP2's (712). I have gone for 3 iron to PW.  I have to say that I should have done this a long tome ago because they are superb. I am 10 handicap and always worried that I was not good enough for  forged irons but the AP2's are fantastic. Still getting used to the weaker lofts than AP1's ( 2 degrees weaker on short irons and 1 degree weaker on long irons) so hopefully I can re-adjust fairly quickly. I don't want to change my 50, 54 and 60 degree vokey wedge set up but the 50 degree is too close to the 47 degree AP2 PW.  I have the 910 D2 9.5 degree driver and 910Fd 15 degree 3W so I am considering dropping 50 degree vokey and buying a 910H 19 degree hybrid. Any thoughts or suggestions?

    If you're getting a 19H you don't really need the 3 iron. The other option is to get a 21 fairway wood - 7 woods are the greatest (there are a few PGA pros, and it is more prevalent on the Champions' and LPGA). You can hit a 7 wood off more lies than a 19H and get the same distance. I wouldn't toss the 50 (I love my 50-08 to death and it is bent to 51-09). Maybe bend it and the 54 1 degree weak to even the gaps. The 50 would then have the same loft as the AP2 gap wedge.
  11. Marc J

    Marc J
    Glendale Heights, IL

    Martin F said:

    My AP1 PW is 45 degrees so my current vokey wedge set up is 50, 54 and 60.

    If I  change to AP2 the PW is 47 degrees so should I go for one degree stronger loft to 46 to maintain current wedge set up or leave at 47 and go 52, 56 and in the vokey wedges ?

    While the true answer relies on your gaps, I would recommend the following:

    47* AP2 PW

    Bend your current 50* 1 weak (51*)

    Bend your current 54* 1 weak (55*)

    This is likely your most inexpensive approach and would maintain a degree of consistency as it relates to your gaps.

  12. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Marc J said:

    While the true answer relies on your gaps, I would recommend the following:

    47* AP2 PW

    Bend your current 50* 1 weak (51*)

    Bend your current 54* 1 weak (55*)

    This is likely your most inexpensive approach and would maintain a degree of consistency as it relates to your gaps.

    [/quote] Bending the 50 to 51 and the 54 to 55 are proven. 51-09 is the same spec for a DCI 981 GW (that set also has a 47* PW). 55-12 is pretty much a "set wedge" standard (I've established a "warm fuzzy" with a 55 sand wedge over the years). I've had the 50-08 (bent to 51) for almost a year now and that is my go-to wedge for shots between 30-95 yards. I've had the 54-11 (bent to 55) for almost a year and a half now and I do quite a bit with it within 50 yards of the pin (I've been carrying some form of a 55* wedge since 2006). I also carried a Golfsmith P2 51* gap wedge between 2007-2009 and it was my go to club between 50-90 yards. Also have to remember that 50-51* was the standard loft of a PW in the good old days of Golf.

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