Why are you playing with him?????

it doesn't.  golf is a gentleman's game, played by gentleman who recognize that honors is a reward earned for good play on the previous hole.  if you want to speed up play, try winning more holes; maybe, start by adding another driver to your bag... it seems to be working for the guy you are playing with.  

That would be the last hole he honored if he was in my foresome.

Deno

I know some people like that, the guy who has to be the last to hit, even if he is the farthest from the hole and should hit first when in the fairway.  If he is consistently hitting into other groups, then explain to him to keep play moving, the shorter tee hitters should hit, then he can hit when the group in front of you is clear.  Otherwise a four hour round turns into a five hour or longer ordeal.  Pace of play should always be kept in mind, and stupid hold ups like the one you explained should never happen. 

The group I play with has a standing rule of ready golf.  First up to the tee can hit regardless of who technically has the honor.  We only grant the honor when someone has birdied the previous hole, and in that case he has to be up there ready to hit.

Sounds like your partner is pretty clueless.  Especially on the waiting for the previous group to be on the green before he hits.  Are you saying that when he has the honor he insists on hitting first and also insists on waiting for the previous group to be on the green?  If that's the case WOW!!!, just WOW!!!

When I go out to play, we normally play ready golf ( so long as everyone agrees). This helps maintain the pace of play. This keeps 3 of us waiting around for a fourth all the time, as with your case. As far as honors goes, we try to honor it (lol) in the sense that whoever has honors tees first unless he feels he might hit into the group in front of them, in which case we let whoever doesnt hit as far and is ready to tee it up go ahead and hit, that way when the group on front of us moves, we are all ready to play. When we get on the green we do follow the rule that whoever is away plays, in that order though. Hopefully this is helpful, because I think we have all been in your shoes. Hit em Straight!

I like to play ready golf.  If my regular group is falling behind the pace, then we step it up and whoever is ready hits on the tee - no honors.  However,  I typically play with guys that know their limitations (and their games), so we don't usually have problems with pace of play.  

From your question the guy that is slow is in your group. Just tell him to pick up the pace. If he does not or objects, find some one else to play with. It's that simple.

Please, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but...

Some of it depends on where you're playing, if you're in a tournament, etc.. Your friend can receive anything from a 1 stroke penalty, to a DQ. I'm sure that if you would call the U.S.G.A., or, check out their website, you could find any rule in the golf world. If your friend waits for the group in front to get on the green, it could just be a courtesy thing. I know that I wouldn't want anyone hitting in to me.

When you leaarn to not let anything on the golf course, your own bad play, others slow play....etc, get you mad, then you will never get mad in life.

I haven't been mad in many many years, and believe me people try hard.

I only play golf with 1 that uses 2 drivers, he goes by the 18 club minimum rule. He doesn't have any problem deciding which way to hit the ball.

This waiting for the group ahead to reach the green before teeing off, well, I gotta tell ya, that is good in so many ways.

What rule book are we talking about ? USGA rule is 14 clubs the last time I looked.

Carl

i think he meant his partners personal minimum was 18 clubs,

I don't think he meant the14 clubs max rule.  I read it twice myself.

Deno

Honestly, probably never.  Unless you are playing in an official tournament where there are time checkpoints, or at a country club with time tracker sheets, your local muni won't really do anything unless they have a marshall/ranger out there.  My buddy played in the US Am this past year and he played well, but the whole group was assessed a 2-stroke penalty because they failed to meet the correct time at a checkpoint.

What does that mean for you?  Ask your friend nicely if he plans on hitting before the sun goes down!

Try playing on his ego.  Tell him he is so good and hits the ball so far that he should always tee off last. At least then you can relax . An other suggestion is, bet him $5.00 dollars that he is not going to reach the group in front of you.  After paying out the $5. a few times maybe he will realize that he is not as long as he thinks he is.

Speak to the pro, ask him to have the ranger come by and ask the group to pick up the pace of play.

Pace of play is one thing.  But it depends on the length of the hole and his distance as to whether he waits for them to reach the green. I play with some that can drive or roll it to some par 4's. You still have to wait on your second shot. What ? Is this a race to finish 18 holes or are you just there to hit and run and not enjoy golf. If you keep an honest pace with the group in front and they do the same , what is the problem. Does he have the legal amount of clubs? Are you playing special rules? Is this a regular group you play with? We all have regular groups and each one has its rabbits and turtles, but it works out in the end.

thanx guys though i must say my example was not someone in our regular group .   it was more a worst case senario because out here in vegas we get alot singles  (tourists)  again thanx guys           

I know in the league I play in there are a few guys that are human rain delays.  One guy takes so long setting up shots and even longer looking at putts from all 4 directions.  I'm usually not in a hurry, but it's just painful to watch him do this all the time.  I'm sure if I took that long to look over putts I would score better.  Although if I looked over putts that long my brain would get in the way. 

Mad Golfer:  Usually when I travel with my wife, she is there for work and I'm there for golf, so I play as a single alot.  When I play as a single it is nice to get hooked up with guys or gals that know the course.  I play the speed of the other players in the group.  I prefer to play at a nice rapid pace and still see the beauty of the course.  Man after talking about this I need to travel and play some golf.

Bottom line for me really slow golf ruins the game. 

Deno

scott b   next time your are in vegas give me a yell...............

What is your home course in Vegas?  I was stationed at the air base there for many years and i played a bunch of places.  I agree, the visitors who come out to play can take a while to get around, but I would always help them out when I could, so they would not make it a 6 hour day. I miss playing Sivlerstone, up in the northwest valley, dang good layout and a beast on a windy day. 

Just drop a copy of this book in his bag, or better yet hand it to him the next time you play a long round.

http://www.fourundergolf.com/about_the_book.html

The look alone would be priceless.

revere concord is great    ,,,,,,,,,,,black moutain is also great im a  little biased cause my good buddy  keith OUTLAW josey is the new director of golf .. do love silverstone .

I know what you mean. I play with my dad and my two brothers and one of my brothers takes WAY too many practice swings before he hits the ball. He sets up each practice swing like he's actually going to hit it so we take too much time per round.